Reason for dungeon runs? - Guild Wars Forums

Nightow · Mar 10, 2009, 12:02 AM // 00:02

Due to boredom, I've tried going on a few dungeon runs just as a way to pass time and get some gold drops. (Hopefully, decent ones) I'd figure that the runners and people being ran would want to go for as many chests as possible (for several reasons including softening the costs of the run itself) but it seems like that's not the case. Is it just simply for the rep? :|

Haxor · Mar 10, 2009, 12:08 AM // 00:08

For the rep and filling dungeon books, yeah. Pretty much.

Nightow · Mar 10, 2009, 12:11 AM // 00:11

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Originally Posted by Haxor

For the rep and filling dungeon books, yeah. Pretty much.

Yeah but I still don't see why they wouldn't want to make some extra gold on the side, durring the run. I remember when i was running CoF to get Obby Armor, I would make sure to get most if not all the chests. People thanked me for doing so and that was that. Still doesn't make sense why not.

jiggles · Mar 10, 2009, 01:22 AM // 01:22

because how often do you make you 1.5k lockpick back?(if thats how much lockpicks ar i cant remeber ;s)

Lord Of Blame · Mar 10, 2009, 01:53 AM // 01:53

It all depends on the group. Some people don't care about the chest. They just wanna get in and out of the dungeon as quick as possible, where other people want to hit all chest and hidden treasures.

I usually don't care if they hit them all or not. I open it if it's there but don't care if they skip it. But then again I seem to be a grape magnet when it comes to locked chest.

Correction: It all depends on the 600. If they wanna hit the chest then everybody can get it, if not then possibly no one gets it. They are usually in there just to make the money and don't care about opening chest.

Eragon Zarroc · Mar 10, 2009, 04:34 AM // 04:34

people want the drops and chests. some people just interested in end chest. some people just want rep or dungeon for book without effort. reasons vary

Icy The Mage · Mar 10, 2009, 05:10 AM // 05:10

Yeah, there's really no point in stopping for simple locked chests or hidden treasures when the end-chest has such promising rewards as a Bone Dragon Staff (which can fetch up to 900+ ectos) or people who get run through the dungeons just to max their titles and fill out dungeon books.

Luminarus · Mar 10, 2009, 05:30 AM // 05:30

Dont get dungeon runs... they stupid. Fight through the dungeon and actually play the game, rather then paying to win the game. It ruins the whole point.

Look at me, im so good ive completed the game without sitting at my computer... why bother?

TheodenKing · Mar 10, 2009, 02:06 PM // 14:06

Keep in mind, the runner makes more money by doing the runs quickly. So his interests aren't necessarily the same as yours. As such, the 600 will usually go for chests that aren't out of the way, since it keeps his customers happy but doesn't slow him down.

By the way, hidden chests can drop rare materials... any rare materials, including ecto.

Rhiana Reborn · Mar 10, 2009, 02:25 PM // 14:25

Is there a confirmed ecto drop from a Hidden Treasure? o.O

Runners will usually take the shortest route to the end, for maximum cash/time ratio. They get something like 30-80k per run, if not more, so it's in their interest to do as many runs as possible in as little time.

CoF is the exception here, because the dungeon itself is easy, and people have begun to expect a runner to clear it all, not just the quickest path. How many runners skipped the enchanted room on the third level when it started?

Edit: Ecto and Obby shards don't drop. Stop saying they do

Kenzo Skunk · Mar 10, 2009, 05:18 PM // 17:18

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Originally Posted by TheodenKing

By the way, hidden chests can drop rare materials... any rare materials, including ecto.

well.. actaully, no. ectos and obsis don`t drop out of hidden treasure chests.

Anon-e-mouse · Mar 10, 2009, 06:23 PM // 18:23

Although Rubies and Sapphires do fairly often drop from CoF hiddens. Lockpicks also will drop from a hidden treasure often.

I often do (and pay for) CoF runs. Because I can work on two factions (Dwarf and Vangard) at the same time. During the course of a CoF run you will probably pass about 10 chests, 9 Hiddens, + drops. Even after paying for the run, you will still garner a few K after the merching is over. There isn't many places you can do fairly quickly whilst working towards so many titles.

Bytor · Mar 10, 2009, 07:56 PM // 19:56

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Originally Posted by Anon-e-mouse

Although Rubies and Sapphires do fairly often drop from CoF hiddens. Lockpicks also will drop from a hidden treasure often.

I often do (and pay for) CoF runs. Because I can work on two factions (Dwarf and Vangard) at the same time. During the course of a CoF run you will probably pass about 10 chests, 9 Hiddens, + drops. Even after paying for the run, you will still garner a few K after the merching is over. There isn't many places you can do fairly quickly whilst working towards so many titles.

Pardon my ignorance, but how do u get Vanguard points from a CoF run? That is news to me.

BabyJ · Mar 10, 2009, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by Bytor

Pardon my ignorance, but how do u get Vanguard points from a CoF run? That is news to me.

You get vanguard points at the end of the dungeon when Murakai dies.

Rhiana Reborn · Mar 11, 2009, 09:25 AM // 09:25

1.25k Vanguard points per run. Used to be only 300, they changed it at some point during the year I was gone >.>

Plus all the delver points from all the killing. Got my monk to r9 delver just from running CoF

Hailey Anne · Mar 11, 2009, 04:15 PM // 16:15

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

Dont get dungeon runs... they stupid. Fight through the dungeon and actually play the game, rather then paying to win the game. It ruins the whole point.

Look at me, im so good ive completed the game without sitting at my computer... why bother?

Don't tell others how to play the game.
I've already beaten all campaigns multiple times by playing through them
so now If I want to take a run I will. It's not up to you it's up to me.
Me getting a run doesn't hurt you in the least.
And dont tell me it takes away from people to group with because guess what, they probably werent going to group with you anyway since H/H are more trustworthy and more firendly than alot of people out there.

OT people get the runs for End Chest,Rep Points and HM Book. Probably the fastest way to gain r10 in any rep is to get runs fill up the book and turn them in. Takes me about 2 Days to max any rep with HM book filling.
I personally dont do them for end chest though just because my luck sucks and don't get anything anyways just a bonus if I do.
Ran Katharax for tips the other day because I was running guildies and someone got r9 Emerald Blade from it

lol

Hailey Anne · Mar 11, 2009, 04:17 PM // 16:17

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Originally Posted by BabyJ

You get vanguard points at the end of the dungeon when Murakai dies.

This.

You get Delver points as bounty in every dungeon and when you complete dungeon you get x amount of rep from whatever territory your in.
Kath,CoF,Rrag you get vangaurd
Arachnis,Oolas Lab Azuran ect.

imnotyourmother · Mar 11, 2009, 06:15 PM // 18:15

I have two cents...

It lengthens the time to do the run if you clear the path for the chests.

Secondly it is not a sound investment as keys cost 1250 gold from other players as stated above the weapon must have a great skin and be req9 or less gold and have at lest 20/20 forget me not on it for your time.

third there are much beter places to open chest. I can get 2 chests in about 5 minutes with running the FORT RANIK mission. My chance of retaining a lock pick are 83% in normal mode. This is enough to keep my lockpick for 10 chests on average what will give me back my 1250 that I paid for the lockpick and adds 250 luck and 200 unlucky points when it breaks.

4th runners do not care...most of the time..

Anon-e-mouse · Mar 12, 2009, 11:14 AM // 11:14

Actually you are wrong, most CoF 'runner's are also there for the chests, and the hiddens treasures, or at least the one's I've been partying with. Often only missing the one by the steward if it's placed awkwardly.

Also chests in Fort Ranik NM do not count towards Treasure Hunter title.

Rhiana Reborn · Mar 12, 2009, 12:57 PM // 12:57

CoF is a bit of a special case, though, as it doesn't require any detours to get to the treasures. You take like 5 extra minutes to clear the large room on the first level, and that's it. All the rest* of the Locked Chest and treasure spawns are on the route to the boss.

*Well, maybe not on the third level, but that's MAYBE one extra locked chest. No big loss considering you'd have to put up with fire spitters.

Mar 10, 2009, 12:02 AM // 00:02	#1
Nightow Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]	Reason for dungeon runs? Due to boredom, I've tried going on a few dungeon runs just as a way to pass time and get some gold drops. (Hopefully, decent ones) I'd figure that the runners and people being ran would want to go for as many chests as possible (for several reasons including softening the costs of the run itself) but it seems like that's not the case. Is it just simply for the rep? :\|

Mar 10, 2009, 01:53 AM // 01:53	#5
Lord Of Blame Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Guild: Marked Souls [MkS] Profession: E/N	It all depends on the group. Some people don't care about the chest. They just wanna get in and out of the dungeon as quick as possible, where other people want to hit all chest and hidden treasures. I usually don't care if they hit them all or not. I open it if it's there but don't care if they skip it. But then again I seem to be a grape magnet when it comes to locked chest. Correction: It all depends on the 600. If they wanna hit the chest then everybody can get it, if not then possibly no one gets it. They are usually in there just to make the money and don't care about opening chest. Last edited by Lord Of Blame; Mar 10, 2009 at 02:07 AM // 02:07..

Mar 10, 2009, 02:25 PM // 14:25	#10
Rhiana Reborn Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2009 Profession: R/	Is there a confirmed ecto drop from a Hidden Treasure? o.O Runners will usually take the shortest route to the end, for maximum cash/time ratio. They get something like 30-80k per run, if not more, so it's in their interest to do as many runs as possible in as little time. CoF is the exception here, because the dungeon itself is easy, and people have begun to expect a runner to clear it all, not just the quickest path. How many runners skipped the enchanted room on the third level when it started? Edit: Ecto and Obby shards don't drop. Stop saying they do Last edited by Rhiana Reborn; Mar 10, 2009 at 02:28 PM // 14:28..

Mar 10, 2009, 12:08 AM // 00:08	#2
Haxor Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2008 Guild: Legion of the Feng Huang [ASH]	For the rep and filling dungeon books, yeah. Pretty much.

Mar 10, 2009, 01:22 AM // 01:22	#4
jiggles Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: N/	because how often do you make you 1.5k lockpick back?(if thats how much lockpicks ar i cant remeber ;s)

Mar 10, 2009, 04:34 AM // 04:34	#6
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	people want the drops and chests. some people just interested in end chest. some people just want rep or dungeon for book without effort. reasons vary

Mar 10, 2009, 05:10 AM // 05:10	#7
Icy The Mage Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Profession: E/	Yeah, there's really no point in stopping for simple locked chests or hidden treasures when the end-chest has such promising rewards as a Bone Dragon Staff (which can fetch up to 900+ ectos) or people who get run through the dungeons just to max their titles and fill out dungeon books.

Mar 10, 2009, 05:30 AM // 05:30	#8
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	Dont get dungeon runs... they stupid. Fight through the dungeon and actually play the game, rather then paying to win the game. It ruins the whole point. Look at me, im so good ive completed the game without sitting at my computer... why bother?

Mar 10, 2009, 02:06 PM // 14:06	#9
TheodenKing Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: DoA Guild: Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk) Profession: N/Me	Keep in mind, the runner makes more money by doing the runs quickly. So his interests aren't necessarily the same as yours. As such, the 600 will usually go for chests that aren't out of the way, since it keeps his customers happy but doesn't slow him down. By the way, hidden chests can drop rare materials... any rare materials, including ecto.

Mar 10, 2009, 06:23 PM // 18:23	#12
Anon-e-mouse Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: @ Home Guild: League Of Friends [LOF] Profession: R/Mo	Although Rubies and Sapphires do fairly often drop from CoF hiddens. Lockpicks also will drop from a hidden treasure often. I often do (and pay for) CoF runs. Because I can work on two factions (Dwarf and Vangard) at the same time. During the course of a CoF run you will probably pass about 10 chests, 9 Hiddens, + drops. Even after paying for the run, you will still garner a few K after the merching is over. There isn't many places you can do fairly quickly whilst working towards so many titles.

Mar 11, 2009, 09:25 AM // 09:25	#15
Rhiana Reborn Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2009 Profession: R/	1.25k Vanguard points per run. Used to be only 300, they changed it at some point during the year I was gone >.> Plus all the delver points from all the killing. Got my monk to r9 delver just from running CoF

Mar 11, 2009, 06:15 PM // 18:15	#18
imnotyourmother Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in a house Guild: The Knitters Guild Profession: W/R	I have two cents... It lengthens the time to do the run if you clear the path for the chests. Secondly it is not a sound investment as keys cost 1250 gold from other players as stated above the weapon must have a great skin and be req9 or less gold and have at lest 20/20 forget me not on it for your time. third there are much beter places to open chest. I can get 2 chests in about 5 minutes with running the FORT RANIK mission. My chance of retaining a lock pick are 83% in normal mode. This is enough to keep my lockpick for 10 chests on average what will give me back my 1250 that I paid for the lockpick and adds 250 luck and 200 unlucky points when it breaks. 4th runners do not care...most of the time..

Mar 12, 2009, 11:14 AM // 11:14	#19
Anon-e-mouse Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: @ Home Guild: League Of Friends [LOF] Profession: R/Mo	Actually you are wrong, most CoF 'runner's are also there for the chests, and the hiddens treasures, or at least the one's I've been partying with. Often only missing the one by the steward if it's placed awkwardly. Also chests in Fort Ranik NM do not count towards Treasure Hunter title.

Mar 12, 2009, 12:57 PM // 12:57	#20
Rhiana Reborn Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2009 Profession: R/	CoF is a bit of a special case, though, as it doesn't require any detours to get to the treasures. You take like 5 extra minutes to clear the large room on the first level, and that's it. All the rest* of the Locked Chest and treasure spawns are on the route to the boss. *Well, maybe not on the third level, but that's MAYBE one extra locked chest. No big loss considering you'd have to put up with fire spitters.